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Self Moderated Cardinal Pell - Australian Justice in the Dock

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That would apply if the accusation centred on financial or violent crime but we live in an era when certain accusations and, more pertinently, certain accused are given shortcut justice.
An accusation of sexual assault against a Catholic clergyman would have half the jury convinced of his guilt before the court hearing even began. The same probably applies to the judiciary.
Jury members are supposed to set aside all prejudice, and are supposed to rely solely upon the evidence presented.

The entire case was predicted solely on the testimony of the plaintiff. There was no other evidence offered.

Has the Australian prosecuter brought other cases based solely on plaintiff testimony with no corroborative evidence? I'd doubt it.

I believe the problem begins with the Aussie prosecutor.
 

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Jury members are supposed to set aside all prejudice, and are supposed to rely solely upon the evidence presented. The entire case was predicted solely on the testimony of the plaintiff. There was no other evidence offered. Has the Australian prosecuter brought other cases based solely on plaintiff testimony with no corroborative evidence? I'd doubt it. I believe the problem begins with the Aussie prosecutor.
That is a very good and reasoned post with questions we need answers one way or the other to. The bigger problem that I see is the legal system itself. These judges adjudicate by a set of rules they interpret. The whole concept of the man on the Clapham omnibus is gone. I think a whole pile of political and politically correct pressures have steered the law in a way to make it a total ass. Until a proper revolutionary form of governance is established along the lines of the Tan war (line em up and shoot em), it is idfficult to see any progress. The law is, as it has always been a tool of oppression.
On Pell's specific case: I do not know if he is innocent or guilty and I have spoken to Australian lawyers about it. What I do know the RCC has done much worse in the USA and Pell did not get a fair trial.
 

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You are spammng about this and should be banned. I am going to #block you now as you degrade and devalue the site with this constant spamming
Wrong.
I am exposing the inconsistencies behind poster Ted assertions and some of the reasons why catholic priests are not getting a fair trial.
These reasons are intrinsically connected to the fake dual papacy erected at the Vatican City in 2013.
One of these “popes”Francis 1st, has promoted and shielded many predatory homosexual priests and continues to do so.


If you want to remain blind concerning how an organisation is perceived that’s your choice.
I believe Pell may be innocent but the climate generated by these wicked prelates makes his life harder.

You obviously can not, like poster Ted, deal with the truth.
 

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That is a very good and reasoned post with questions we need answers one way or the other to. The bigger problem that I see is the legal system itself. These judges adjudicate by a set of rules they interpret. The whole concept of the man on the Clapham omnibus is gone. I think a whole pile of political and politically correct pressures have steered the law in a way to make it a total ass. Until a proper revolutionary form of governance is established along the lines of the Tan war (line em up and shoot em), it is idfficult to see any progress. The law is, as it has always been a tool of oppression.
On Pell's specific case: I do not know if he is innocent or guilty and I have spoken to Australian lawyers about it. What I do know the RCC has done much worse in the USA and Pell did not get a fair trial.
No sane poster would listen to somebody like you on here openly promoting Lynch Law.

What would you know about fairness let alone legal procedures given your savage thirst for blood.

With friends like you Pell doesn’t need enemies.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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Jury members are supposed to set aside all prejudice, and are supposed to rely solely upon the evidence presented.

The entire case was predicted solely on the testimony of the plaintiff. There was no other evidence offered.

Has the Australian prosecuter brought other cases based solely on plaintiff testimony with no corroborative evidence? I'd doubt it.

I believe the problem begins with the Aussie prosecutor.
I believe the Victoria police set out to find some "evidence" against Cardinal Pell - before anyone had even made a complaint. That fact has not been scrutinized by the court.
 

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In upholding Pell’s appeal and in the arguments he made, Weinberg raises the implication an innocent man is being convicted ..

One lawyer close to these events told me: “The word of complainants is now regarded as near infallible.” During the trial various inconsistencies by the complainant were explained away by the prosecution as the established reactions by sexual abuse victims.


 
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In upholding Pell’s appeal and in the arguments he made, Weinberg raises the implication an innocent man is being convicted ..

One lawyer close to these events told me: “The word of complainants is now regarded as near infallible.” During the trial various inconsistencies by the complainant were explained away by the prosecution as the established reactions by sexual abuse victims.


Very Good summary of the case there

- the Fight for Justice goes on!
 
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I'm delighted to see that Cardinal Pell fights on, and will appeal to Australia's highest court to prove his innocense. It's clear from the excerpts from the account of the so called witness that his story has been concocted by other people and he has simply learned it off. I'm confident that Australia's top judges will see through this fraud and declare Cardinal Pell an innocent man.

Watch out Anti-Catholic scum - the end of your reign of terror is closer than you think. Prepare for the worst drubbing you've ever had.

 

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I'm delighted to see that Cardinal Pell fights on, and will appeal to Australia's highest court to prove his innocense. It's clear from the excerpts from the account of the so called witness that his story has been concocted by other people and he has simply learned it off. I'm confident that Australia's top judges will see through this fraud and declare Cardinal Pell an innocent man.

Watch out Anti-Catholic scum - the end of your reign of terror is closer than you think. Prepare for the worst drubbing you've ever had.

Don't think so. I think its going to get worse.

Good luck to Pell, mind.
 

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The plot thickens.
This is going to be big.


Using leaked Vatican documents, the Italian journal L’Espresso has revealed details of unauthorized financial transactions, concluding that “the Holy See is facing a scandal that has few precedents in recent history.”
 
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