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Can a Catholic layperson consecrate a Host for personal use during an emergency.

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This is a theological question thread mainly for believing Catholics
Please don’t divert it into an argument about Gods existence.

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Can a Catholic layperson consecrate a Host?

The RCC based on tradition and de fide teaching since the Middle Ages says only ordained priests have the power from God to consecrate a Host.
This teaching is based on an interpretation by catholic priests ,from the gospel that Christ gave the power only to his disciples at the last supper.

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Can a Catholic layperson consecrate a Host

It’s not clear at all in the primitive early church who had this power.
The first New Testament prophets were not ordained by anybody and it’s accepted they had the power to consecrate hosts.
Ananias being one and also the seventy disciples sent by Christ who were never present at the last supper .

In a state of emergency the Catholic Church permits all kinds of exceptions Ecclesia Supplet.
Catholics worldwide now live in a state of emergency where they are denied access to the sacraments in many countries that have a solid Catholic infrastructure .

Conclusion

There is a strong argument that lay Catholics can in an emergency consecrate a Host for personal use based on the initial words of Jesus at the Last Supper.
This resolves all sorts of problems associated with priestly gender and access to the sacraments.

I understand this proposal for many Catholics may seem radical and no doubt the priests and bishops would oppose it but it is only a proposal and I would love to hear posters views on the matter.

The critical question to be answered is would such a consecration by a layperson be valid.
 
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Well, Communion Bread does not have to be a wafer.
As far as I know, a slice of Brennans Bread would serve in a pinch.
And I am not mocking or being facetious.
 
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in an emergency, you ditch the superstitious mumbo jumbo and ask somebody competent to help you......doctor, fireman, psychologist, helicopter pilot


is this a religious discussion board or a politics one ?
 

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I once tried to eat a dry cream cracker in a hurry.

Afrer twenty seconds it felt like there were supernatural forces at work.
 
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No.
If they do, they go straight to hell.
Why?
No priest ever told me not to try consecrate bread.
The purpose of this thread is to ascertain if the church restriction on who can consecrate bread is soundly based.

A bald statement like yours is not informative.
You might be right, ( I don’t think you are) but let’s hear your reasons please.
 
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in an emergency, you ditch the superstitious mumbo jumbo and ask somebody competent to help you......doctor, fireman, psychologist, helicopter pilot
Not all emergencies are health related.
is this a religious discussion board or a politics one ?
There is a religious section on the forum where this thread is based.
I hope to show a political connection later as-to why priests grabbed the power.
 
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Well, Communion Bread does not have to be a wafer.
As far as I know, a slice of Brennans Bread would serve in a pinch.
And I am not mocking or being facetious.
Are you a believing catholic?
If not then maybe this is not the the thread for you.
 

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Are you a believing catholic?
If not then maybe this is not the the thread for you.
Stupid response.
It's none of your damn business, but I will never deny my religion.
You're a thick, I asked a perfectly reasonable question, far more reasonable than your stupidity about laymen consecrating the Host.
 
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