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Notachipanoaktree

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The decades long artificial partition of Ireland will be in name only under the backstop - just as the occupied 6 counties of Ireland will be in name only, part of the UK.

There will never be a de-facto border through Ireland again.
Except for the economic one which along with the EU gravy-train exists for the benefit of Politicians of all hues, X-eyes men, Customs men, Shop-keepers, Garagists, Builders, Car Salesmen, publicans, farmers, P&CS TV importers, to first cut their money scamming teeth on, i.e how they get rich to start themselves off, loike.
 

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Hungarian officials spotted leaving talks with British officials in last couple days.. raising speculation that Orban will veto the UK's delay request.
 

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“The Irish border issue has been over complicated. The technology already exists to do customs checks
without border infrastructure. Having officers in peak caps standing by barriers at the border is laughably archaic.”

- Graham Gudgin on the Irish border.
 

jon 1000's of irish f

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ireland
4% of GDP.

That's one hell of a hit. It would be up to Ireland to put in border controls because Northern Ireland wouldn't.
 

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The EU Commission and the UK are playing the blame game, Macron is indulging his napolionic delusions, but Merkel has been very quiet of late on the Brexit issue. I suspect she will shortly move to centre stage, knock heads together and do a deal.
 

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Following Boris’s call with Merkel in which she has refused to budge on the Northern Ireland border, a Number 10 source has told Sky’s Sam Coates:
‘The call with Merkel showed the EU has adopted a new position. She made clear a deal is overwhelmingly unlikely and she thinks the EU has a veto on us leaving the Customs Union. Merkel said that if Germany wanted to leave the EU they could do it no problem but the UK cannot leave without leaving Northern Ireland behind in a customs union and in full alignment forever. She said that Ireland is the government’s special problem and Ireland must at least have a veto on NI leaving. Merkel said that the PM should tell Northern Ireland that it must stay in full alignment forever, but that even this would not eliminate customs issues.
‘It was a very useful clarifying moment in all sorts of ways. If this represents a new established position, then it means a deal is essentially impossible not just now but ever. It also made clear that they are willing to torpedo the Good Friday Agreement’
Hardly pulling their punches at this point…
UPDATE:
Tusk confirms the death of negotiations
what’s at stake is not winning some stupid blame game. At stake is the future of Europe and the UK as well as the security and interests of our people. You don’t want a deal, you don’t want an extension, you don’t want to revoke, quo vadis?
 

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I think Merkel is losing it if she said all that - she will shortly shuffle off stage. But No 10 is naughty to have released the contents of what is claimed to have been a confidential conversation and in the process whipping up anti-German sentiment among the Brexiteer populace.
 

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Yeah, he's suddenly more optimistic about a Clean Break brexit following the call between Merkel and Johnson.
 
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