Average Public Sector pay 40% higher than Private, now public sector get a pay rise!

Anderson

Take the red pill
Donator
PI Member
Political Irish
Joined
May 25, 2016
Threads
222
Messages
5,070
Likes
5,960
Location
Matrix
#1
Dan O'Brien: How the Government continues to prioritise public sector pay levels above all else

Don't expect the inequality between public and private pay to change in Budget '19, writes Dan O'Brien

In Britain, the average public sector worker earns £524 (€592) a week, according to the most recent figures from that country's Office of National Statistics. That was less than 1pc above the pay of the average British private sector worker.

The latest figures from the Irish State's statisticians show that average weekly earnings in the public sector here are €959. That is more than 40pc higher than in the private sector.
That's 1pc versus 40pc. This is a very big difference. It is enormous when one considers there is no great difference between the public sectors in the two countries.
There are good reasons why pay in the public sector can sometimes be higher than in the private sector - in developed countries, the average government worker has, for instance, more educational qualifications than his or her counterpart in the private sector.
Those who downplay or seek to justify the huge public-private pay gap in Ireland make much of factors such as these.
They make much less of factors that work the other way. That public sector workers are immune from redundancy and that they enjoy much better pension arrangements are two such factors.

Many people who are more risk-averse are attracted to careers in the public sector because they want more security during their working lives and during retirement.
Countries in Europe that are serious about fairness reflect all factors in public pay. Britain has many faults, but it long ago put in place fair mechanisms to determine pay for workers employed by the state. It is for this reason that there is little difference between public and private sector pay in that country.
Because the composition of the public sectors in Ireland and Britain are very similar, there is no good reason why the Irish public pay premium is so enormous, and why it has been so consistently enormous.

But there is a bad reason for the massive gap.

And if that wasn't bad enough.

TDs and public servants get a pay rise totalling nearly €1k today

TDS WILL BE happy when they look at their pay packets, as today they are receiving nearly a €1,000 pay boost under the Public Service Stability Agreement (PSSA).


The agreement sets out how Fempi measures – which were introduced during economic hardship – will be unwound and how wages for public sector workers will be increased between now and 2022.


The deal also sets out that there will be no pay increases for the Taoiseach, Tánaiste, Ministers, Ministers of State or the Attorney General.


However, TDs will see their pay packet rise from €93,599 to €94,535 from today.


This is the second 1% rise politicians have received in 2018, having already received on in January.
TDs get a pay rise totalling nearly €1k today


With the Budget expected to hit hard pressed families with increases in Oil, Diesel and Petrol how the hell can this government give an already overpaid public sector a pay increase?

There must be millions working in the public sector because I for my life cant understand who in the hell is voting Fine Gael and their cronies at the next election.
 

BURNOUT

PI Member
Joined
Oct 30, 2015
Threads
57
Messages
584
Likes
393
#2
Welcome to another winter of discontent (for some of us anyway), homeless dying, flu hit hospitals and overcrowding, with the cost of heating and driving hitting those in rural Ireland more, And the boys who write the rules give themselves a pay rise and we all take it because that is what we do.
 

Tadhg Gaelach

Donator
Premium Account
PI Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2016
Threads
1,239
Messages
31,698
Likes
30,413
#3
But, is the problem not that private sector employers are using mass immigration to push down the wages they pay their workers? Rather than calling for public service wages to be cut, we should be demanding an end to mass immigration and allowing the law of supply and demand to push up private sector wages.
 

Daigoro

PI Member
Joined
Jan 21, 2018
Threads
13
Messages
219
Likes
420
#4
But, is the problem not that private sector employers are using mass immigration to push down the wages they pay their workers? Rather than calling for public service wages to be cut, we should be demanding an end to mass immigration and allowing the law of supply and demand to push up private sector wages.
I take your point,Tadhg,but surely private sector businesses have to exist in the real world where they have to cover their costs and make a profit,unlike the public sector lalaland where no matter how bloated or inefficient you are,the public purse is always there to bail you out!witness the seventh circle of hell that is RTE,demanding another 30 million to keep the lights on! Im pretty sure the 'man in the street'would be gobsmacked at the waste,inefficiency,and general bollocks acting that goes on in RTE,but to listen to their apologists their living out of a cardboard box!
 

Tadhg Gaelach

Donator
Premium Account
PI Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2016
Threads
1,239
Messages
31,698
Likes
30,413
#6
I take your point,Tadhg,but surely private sector businesses have to exist in the real world where they have to cover their costs and make a profit,unlike the public sector lalaland where no matter how bloated or inefficient you are,the public purse is always there to bail you out!witness the seventh circle of hell that is RTE,demanding another 30 million to keep the lights on! Im pretty sure the 'man in the street'would be gobsmacked at the waste,inefficiency,and general bollocks acting that goes on in RTE,but to listen to their apologists their living out of a cardboard box!

Without a doubt, that's true a chara. But, mass immigration creates a vicious circle. Wages are cut down to a minimum, and so workers cannot afford what businesses produce. And so those businesses have to cut their prices. The only way they can do that is by cutting wages even more, which means that workers are even less able to afford their produce - and so it goes on until all produce is being manufactured in Third World sweatshops - or the sweatshops have been just moved to Europe.
 
Last edited:

Daigoro

PI Member
Joined
Jan 21, 2018
Threads
13
Messages
219
Likes
420
#7
Without a doubt, that's true a chara. But, mass immigration creates a vicious circle. Wages are cut down to a minimum, and so workers cannot afford what businesses produce. And so those businesses have to cut their prices. The only way they can do that is by cutting wages even more, which means that workers are even less able to afford their produce - and so it goes on until all produce is being manufactured in Third World seatshops - or the sweatshops have been just moved to Europe.
Absolutely,no arguments there,which of course is why Trumps 'America first' and 'hire American' policies have proved so popular,and are already improving pay and conditions for many ordinary Americans!Compare that to our own ineffectual fuckwit Leo Varukers recent comments about immigrants being more likely to work and pay tax than native Irish!!Gobsmacking stuff,what a treasonous prick!of course hes cleverly lumping all immigrants in together,hard working,often highly skilled Eastern Europeans and third world welfare tourists whose main skill is milking the system for every cent!
 

Tadhg Gaelach

Donator
Premium Account
PI Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2016
Threads
1,239
Messages
31,698
Likes
30,413
#9
the public sector is the permanent inner party. those who insulate the regime from the radical change that should happen.

That's true also. The way the Régime works here is that it buys the loyalty of just enough workers to prevent anything from ever happening. And that includes buying off the Fake Left with baubles such as so called "gay marriage" and abortion. Though abortion is an austerity measure in itself that the Régime is very much in favour of, and will cut down the numbers of potentially uppedy Natives in the future.
 

Tadhg Gaelach

Donator
Premium Account
PI Member
Joined
Jan 14, 2016
Threads
1,239
Messages
31,698
Likes
30,413
#10
Absolutely,no arguments there,which of course is why Trumps 'America first' and 'hire American' policies have proved so popular,and are already improving pay and conditions for many ordinary Americans!Compare that to our own ineffectual fuckwit Leo Varukers recent comments about immigrants being more likely to work and pay tax than native Irish!!Gobsmacking stuff,what a treasonous prick!of course hes cleverly lumping all immigrants in together,hard working,often highly skilled Eastern Europeans and third world welfare tourists whose main skill is milking the system for every cent!

Of course, the Punjab Princess doesn't see that as treason, but as loyalty to his fellow migrants.
 

Bustedshaun

Donator
Premium Account
PI Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2017
Threads
0
Messages
241
Likes
303
#11
Well,just like in the UK they have financial pressures.COUNCIL BOSS BOUGHT DILDO WITH GRENFELL TOWERS SURVIVOR’S MONEY
2OCT2018
CENTRAL LONDON
A council finance boss spent part of the £60,000 she stole from the Grenfell Tower victims on an Ann Summers vibrator. Jenny McDonagh, 39, plundered the fund to live the high life, making shopping trips to Rodeo Drive in Los Angeles, Isleworth crown court heard. She also funded a huge gambling habit and brought the love aid from the sex shop. The lurid purple sex aid cost £48 and was a mammoth 12 inches long. McDonagh enjoyed a New Year’s…
 
Top Bottom