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Anti-irish racism & Propaganda. From da Brits and elsewhere.

PO'Neill

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Orwell was anti-Irish.

"Catholics in England, the bulk of them very poor Irish labourers, were the only really conscious, logical intelligent enemies that democracy has got in England... They were a silent drag on Labour Party policy but are not sufficiently under the thumb of their priests to be fascist in sympathy."
 

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Orwell was anti-Irish.

"Catholics in England, the bulk of them very poor Irish labourers, were the only really conscious, logical intelligent enemies that democracy has got in England... They were a silent drag on Labour Party policy but are not sufficiently under the thumb of their priests to be fascist in sympathy."

Orwell would be long forgotten about - except that the CIA spent millions promoting his paltry books.
 

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Anti-Irish racialism was a very real and influential thing in British history (we neglect to remember how much of our historical experience was occasioned by the fact that our Anglo-Irish gentry were descended from adventurers who saw it as their God-given duty to punish a race whom 'God has marked out for dstruction'), but sometimes the line can be blurry between racism and plain ol' vicious piss-taking of other nations of the kind which the British tend to go in for. Not all mockery of the Irish was racialist, even if it was very vicious. This is a hilarious poem by Andrew Marvell about the Dutch which would have us up in arms if it was about us:

Holland, that scarce deserves the name of land,​
As but th’ off-scouring of the British sand;​
And so much earth as was contributed​
By English pilots when they heav’d the lead;​
Or what by th’ ocean’s slow alluvion fell,​
Of shipwrack’d cockle and the mussel-shell;​
This indigested vomit of the sea​
Fell to the Dutch by just propriety.​
Glad then, as miners that have found the ore,​
They with mad labour fish’d the land to shore;​
And div’d as desperately for each piece​
Of earth, as if’t had been of ambergris;​
Collecting anxiously small loads of clay,​
Less than what building swallows bear away;​
Or than those pills which sordid beetles roll,​
Transfusing into them their dunghill soul.​
How did they rivet, with gigantic piles,​
Thorough the centre their new-catched miles;​
And to the stake a struggling country bound,​
Where barking waves still bait the forced ground;​
Building their watry Babel far more high​
To reach the sea, than those to scale the sky.​
Yet still his claim the injur’d ocean laid,​
And oft at leap-frog ore their steeples play’d:​
As if on purpose it on land had come​
To show them what’s their mare liberum.​
A daily deluge over them does boil;​
The earth and water play at level-coil;​
The fish oft-times the burgher dispossest,​
And sat not as a meat but as a guest;​
And oft the Tritons and the sea-nymphs saw​
Whole sholes of Dutch serv’d up for cabillau;​
Or as they over the new level rang’d​
For pickled herring, pickled heeren chang’d.​
Nature, it seem’d, asham’d of her mistake,​
Would throw their land away at duck and drake.​
 

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Orwell was anti-Irish.

"Catholics in England, the bulk of them very poor Irish labourers, were the only really conscious, logical intelligent enemies that democracy has got in England... They were a silent drag on Labour Party policy but are not sufficiently under the thumb of their priests to be fascist in sympathy."
Orwell was not anti-Irish just because he saw Irish "republicanism" for the empty ethnonationalistic it really was.

The prescience of 1984 is staggering. Deeply relevant to the Cultural Marxist surveillance super-state the globalists are busy constructing.

Orwell was a true political genius, still hated today by the commies he helped crush.
 

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Orwell was not anti-Irish just because he saw Irish "republicanism" for the empty ethnonationalistic it really was.

The prescience of 1984 is staggering. Deeply relevant to the Cultural Marxist surveillance super-state the globalists are busy constructing.

Orwell was a true political genius, still hated today by the commies he helped crush.

Not surprised you revere a rogue like Orwell. Birds of a feather and all that. Though I doubt if you support his ideas on economics.
 

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And it's very sad to see the Irish thickos licking the arse of the Anglo-Saxon and trying to pretend he is now one of the gang by using the very same racist tropes against Africans as were used against him. The Slave Mentality posing as Irish Nationalism.
A lot of Irish are unhappy unless they can find someone to hate and swear about.
 

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Orwell was anti-Irish.

"Catholics in England, the bulk of them very poor Irish labourers, were the only really conscious, logical intelligent enemies that democracy has got in England... They were a silent drag on Labour Party policy but are not sufficiently under the thumb of their priests to be fascist in sympathy."

That does not surprise. This was very much a man of the British establishment.

But i am surprised by how much his scribblings on Ireland remind me of the views of modern day 26 county Unionists. Anti Irishness from a liberal Irish-Unionist perspective, his ideas carefully protected by his diligent ignorance.
 
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