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I'm afraid Chomsky lost his balance when he supported the racist lynch mobs in Libya in 2011, and he has never regained it.
Chomsky lost his balance well before that.

Btw in 2011 the people in those mobs in Libya were a lot different to what they became after Assad turned Syria into a Jihadi magnet. They were mostly young Muslims with a vision that was compatible with values of freedom and democracy. I have demonstrated that before.

Whatever, Chomsky's radical support of totalitarians throughout the 50s, 60, 70's and later, does not preclude the possibility that now and again he is capable of saying something that has a good amount of truth in it.

It's worth a listen.
 

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I loathe a lot of what Chomsky is about.

But there's a fair amount of truth in what he's saying below about the Alex Jones type tendencies.

Worth a listen. Shines a stark light on a lot of posters around here though, watch out.



Alex Jones is a Paleo-Libertarian and NOT a TEA Party type; the two actually have significant differences between them, while I would see the latter as far more noble than the former I would not be looking to either for remedies. I dont think it does shine any light on a lot of posters on here however.
 

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Jones seems to be a limited hangout. CIA all over him. He grew up with an intelligence backgound via close family members. He admitted it himself. An establishment Pentagon Hack. He won't touch the Council for National Policy (CNP), Le Cercle, Pilgrims Society,American Security Council. Along with possible links to Stratfor. He has no problem with corporations being all powerful.
 
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Chomsky lost his balance well before that.

Btw in 2011 the people in those mobs in Libya were a lot different to what they became after Assad turned Syria into a Jihadi magnet. They were mostly young Muslims with a vision that was compatible with values of freedom and democracy.

On the second day of their democratic revolution, they took fifty black workers from a building site in Benghazi, locked them in a shed, and burned them to death. That's what you and Chomsky supported and gave political cover to.
 

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On the second day of their democratic revolution, they took fifty black workers from a building site in Benghazi, locked them in a shed, and burned them to death. That's what you and Chomsky supported and gave political cover to.
No it's not. Perhaps you can present it so in retrospect. You love your self-righteous judgements issued in retrospect don't you. But at the time, any support offered was on the basis of young Muslims writing blogs, talking about an Arab Spring, and talking about freedom and democracy.
 

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@Catherine, Chomsky is talking about Jones and his ilk whatever the video title. And yes, it does shine light on many posters on here. Even if you were blind you could see that.
 

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No it's not. Perhaps you can present it so in retrospect. You love your self-righteous judgements issued in retrospect don't you. But at the time, any support offered was on the basis of young Muslims writing blogs, talking about an Arab Spring, and talking about freedom and democracy.
Nope. NATO were helping terrorists because terrorists are the ones that can be relied upon to do their regime change dirty work. Just like Reagan used the Mujahideen -- not moderates -- as their vanguard in Afghanistan. Young Muslims writing blogs mean diddly squat. They are just the socially acceptable props media pushes out to assuage the consciences of foolish people.
 
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Jones is also amusing because he shares a platform with Rudi Giuliani, the Mayor of NYC during 9/11. Jones' big thing was state involvement in 9/11 although I don't know enough about Jones to know whether he attaches any blame to Giuliani himself.
 

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On the second day of their democratic revolution, they took fifty black workers from a building site in Benghazi, locked them in a shed, and burned them to death. That's what you and Chomsky supported and gave political cover to.

Part of the reason that the Jihadist scum hated Col Ghaddafi was his very deep concern for the whole of Africa. You wont find many people also more racist against Black Africans than the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt but that is another story. I have criticisms of him but he went to his judgement having done much more good that he didnt have to do and wasnt expected of him than he did harm- how many of us will be able to say that? The destruction of Libya was deeply harmful to Africa as a whole and a good case can be made than Libya under him was more democratic than the UK...However you know all this.
 

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@Catherine, Chomsky is talking about Jones and his ilk whatever the video title. And yes, it does shine light on many posters on here. Even if you were blind you could see that.

No most posters here would be Far Left by American standards.
 

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Jones is in effect a gatekeeper(only allows information which suits his own agenda) who has over the years built up quite a large audience. He's steering them in certain directions (The Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg etc to avoid other directions.(CNP, Le Cercle, John Birch Society nutters.) Why is there so much hysteria from Jones and why does he act so demented? It's almost too easy for his critics to point at Jones and say "see all conspiracy theorists/theories are stark raving mad". He's handing it to them on a plate. Where is the sober, serious, honest analysis from him? The US gov must have millions of classified/recently released documents at this point.

The truth is the sober serious work can be quite boring for a general audience sometimes and that's not how Jones operates. You get demented screaming instead and the viewers lap it up. There are loads of decent books out there with plenty of footnotes and references written by serious researchers. Do fans of Jones read these books? I doubt it because they wouldn't be taking Jones seriously if they did.
 
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