AfD leader under fire for sharing Hitler image "Missed Since 1945"

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Within the NPD who are a much radical nationalist party that AfD a lot of people would detest Hitler and he remains divisive among even more radical German Nationalists
Also shocking- I don't know a lot about these extreme guys - the UKIP line is as far as I go.

I hope Marine Le Pen gets in but I don't agree with Red Lights that the FN has broken.

I'm only as hardline as UKIP not the BNP or Jobbik etc.
 
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The world is changing and changing fast. What was once sacrosanct is no longer. In Slovakia there is a political party that openly supports the National Socilasts:

Slovakia comes to grips with proudly neo-Nazi party

By wmw_admin on November 26, 2016
Karel Janicek — Associated Press Nov 18, 2016


Chief of the extreme right Kotleba – People’s Party Our Slovakia (LS NS) Marian Kotleba arrives for a television debate after Saturday’s parliamentary elections in Bratislava, Slovakia. Click to enlarge
The wave of far-right parties across Europe has been gathering steam from Greece to France and Germany. While most of the continent’s extreme forces have taken pains to steer clear of Nazi imagery, Slovakia’s answer to the trend celebrates it.
Kotleba — The People’s Party Our Slovakia — won almost 10 percent of the seats in Parliament in March. It openly admires the Nazi puppet state which the country was during the World War II.
Party members use Nazi salutes, blame Roma for crime in deprived areas, consider NATO a terror group and want the country out of the alliance and the European Union.
The party takes its name from its leader, Marian Kotleba, previously chairman of the banned neo-Nazi Slovak Togetherness-National Party, which organized anti-Roma rallies and admired Nazi rule in Slovakia.
Thousands have signed a petition demanding that the party be banned. Analysts say the party’s popularity could grow even further.
Its simple slogan — “With courage against the system!” — attracts young people fed up with corruption and the inability of mainstream parties to deal effectively with the post-communist country’s problems.
In contrast to most of Europe’s far-right groups, “it’s truly neo-Nazi, it advocates the legacy of the Nazi war state,” says Eduard Chmelar, a Slovak political analyst.
Miroslav Mares, an expert on extremism from the Masaryk University in the Czech city of Brno, said the party belongs to the “hard core of right-wing extremism” in Europe. He said it has only some features similar to Greece’s Golden Dawn party and to Hungary’s Jobbik at its beginning.
What they have in common is targeting the mainstream politics.
“The parties like that are not looking for solutions, it’s all about protests,” Chmelar said. “You can see it globally. It’s the same with Donald Trump, it’s the same with (Marine) Le Pen in France. What’s important is to be against the system. They’re all riding on a wave of public dissatisfaction that has been growing.”
These parties “communicate and cooperate with each other, and that dramatically changes the situation in Europe, and that’s dangerous,” Chmelar said. “So far, there’s no recipe to stop them.”
Kotleba’s new party made news by launching patrols on trains in April in a reaction to a robbery blamed on a member of the Roma minority. Parliament banned such activities in October.
The party has proposed legislation to label non-governmental organizations that receive funding from abroad as foreign agents, and is trying to get the 350,000 signatures needed to force nationwide referendums on the country’s membership in NATO and the European Union.
“Among our major goals is above all a creation of an independent and self-sufficient Slovakia, that is Slovakia which has an autonomous foreign policy that is not dictated by any foreign structure, such as the European Union,” Milan Uhrik, a deputy chairman of the party, told The Associated Press in a rare interview. Kotleba refuses to talk to foreign media, The AP was told.
Speaking in the Parliament building, Uhrik said the EU has been turning into a super state with Brussels in power. “What’s the worst is that EU legislation is above Slovak law,” he said.
NATO is another target.

“It’s important for Slovakia to leave NATO because we consider NATO a terrorist organization. It doesn’t bring peace to the world, quite the contrary,” Uhrik said.
“NATO is in fact a military organization of the United States and we are militarily subordinated to the United States.”
A celebration of wartime Slovakia remains particularly controversial, but Uhrik says it is not about fascism.
“As nationalists, we cannot reject the first independent Slovak state,” he argued. “We recognize the Slovak (war) state because it was the first Slovak state, not because it was a fascist state.”
On Oct. 13, party members celebrated the 129th anniversary of the birth of Jozef Tiso, a Catholic priest and politician who was Slovakia’s war president. During his rule, some 60,000 Slovak Jews were transported to Nazi death camps. He was sentenced to death and hanged in 1947.
Rights activists have submitted a petition with 20,000 signatures calling for the party to be banned. Prosecutors are reviewing that request.
“Racism, xenophobia, anti-Semitism, Holocaust denials and other such things have no place in democracy,” said Peter Weisenbacher from Bratislava’s Human Rights Institute.
Kotleba is not a newcomer on Slovakia’s political scene.
In 2013, he was elected the head of a regional government, campaigning on a strong anti-Roma ticket. He promised to have a recipe to solve problems with the embattled minority, calling its members “Gypsy parasites.”
He defeated a candidate of the ruling leftist Smer-Social Democracy party in a runoff vote despite that party’s chairman, Prime Minister Robert Fico, claiming that “a bag of potatoes” would beat Kotleba.
“It was a shock for me when (Kotleba) won the regional election,” said Ingrid Kosova, a Roma activist. “I remember people were calling me every day saying that they were ridiculed on the streets, they were not allowed to board buses, they were really afraid. Later on the situation calmed down but until now they live with worries and fears.”
In a region hit by unemployment around 15 percent, and over 25 percent in one county, Kosova said Kotleba succeeded in poor areas where the problems with the Roma minority are felt, and “which he misused to get to power.”
When the party won seats in Parliament, “I was abroad in the Czech Republic and I was considering staying there for good,” Kosova said.
During the celebration of the 70th anniversary of the Slovak National Uprising against the Nazi rule in 2014, with foreign presidents and other dignitaries in the central city of Banska Bystrica, the seat of Kotleba’s region, Kotleba was flying a black flag from his office and unveiled banners saying “Yankees go home!” and “Stop NATO!”
The Uprising is considered a defining moment of the Slovak history, and for most Slovaks a source of national pride because they stood against the Nazi rule.
Peter Gogola was mayor there at the time.
“I can’t forgive him that,” Gogola said. “My grandpa was forced to fight in the Hungarian fascist army and died at Stalingrad. I can’t stand fascism.”
Martin Slosiarik, the head of Bratislava-based pollster Focus, said 70 percent of those who voted for Kotleba are under 40. He said most of them voted for him not because they would share his extremist views but because he promised “to deal with the Roma and get rid of corruption.”
“They’ve learned how to work with the public opinion to create a picture that they’re the only force ready to challenge the current corrupt system,” Chmelar said. He predicted the party could reach more than 10 percent of the popular vote at the next election.
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It's good that the so called Far Right are against the NATO criminals. Though I'm not sure that this party are very Right Wing at all.
 

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Also shocking- I don't know a lot about these extreme guys - the UKIP line is as far as I go.

I hope Marine Le Pen gets in but I don't agree with Red Lights that the FN has broken.

I'm only as hardline as UKIP not the BNP or Jobbik etc.
The BNP, at least during the Griffin era, was a very mixed bag; on one side it had a lot of fine people, good balanced and intelligent patriots and on the other side it had a lot of complete and utter psychos and morons. Ultimately it collapsed due principally to internal corruption in which someone from Ulster who would later re-emerge the Fleg hysterics played a significant role however the lulas would tell ordinary English people they were race traitors for having the odd curry didn't exactly help either. On a lot of things though such as (actual) social justice and ecological issues they were better than UKIP and over all they were less given to "Land of Hope and Glory" jingoistic chest beating in many ways. Personally I think it is a bit of a shame they imploded because they had at one stage the possibility of developing into a moderate identitarian party like the FN in France.

UKIP in Northern Ireland I would consider a lot more extreme than the BNP in the Griffin era though head office has tried to reign them in, even chucking out the lad who was their most popular figure.
 

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Wartime Slovakia may have been a Nazi client state but it was actually governed by a Catholic priest, Tiso, who may better compared with Franco in outlook. I don't know anything about this contemporary party mind you but I would pause from addressing them as NeoNazis precisely.
That is what I was thinking; these lads might not be Neo-Nazis at all and might just admire a historical figure who collaborated with the Third Reich. Than again they might be; I wouldn't trust the mainstream media on these questions.

In Ireland there was the case of Yann Goulet, the Breton artist who made various Irish Republican monuments and had been involved in been part of the autonomous Breton State that was under Third Reich "influence" during World War II who some Journalists used to point to as proof that Irish Republicans were basically Nazis; he was on friendly terms with both Provies and Stickies however as well as being a pretty amazing artist.
 

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It's good that the so called Far Right are against the NATO criminals. Though I'm not sure that this party are very Right Wing at all.
Well Powellites in the UK as well as quiet a few Gaullists in France were incredibly hostile to NATO it has to be said. Need to say the type of people who had Evola and Sprenglar on their bookshelves didn't want it in Europe either.
 
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That is what I was thinking; these lads might not be Neo-Nazis at all and might just admire a historical figure who collaborated with the Third Reich. Than again they might be; I wouldn't trust the mainstream media on these questions.

In Ireland there was the case of Yann Goulet, the Breton artist who made various Irish Republican monuments and had been involved in been part of the autonomous Breton State that was under Third Reich "influence" during World War II who some Journalists used to point to as proof that Irish Republicans were basically Nazis; he was on friendly terms with both Provies and Stickies however as well as being a pretty amazing artist.
Slovakia is a country that would be at the rump end of a hard Communist Czechoslovakian state for decades on end. It's unsurprising that Tiso is being partially rehabilitated by some following that experience. A little like how Bandera is invoked in modern Ukraine and how some in Romania are reassessing Antonescu.
 

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The BNP, at least during the Griffin era, was a very mixed bag; on one side it had a lot of fine people, good balanced and intelligent patriots and on the other side it had a lot of complete and utter psychos and morons. Ultimately it collapsed due principally to internal corruption in which someone from Ulster who would later re-emerge the Fleg hysterics played a significant role however the lulas would tell ordinary English people they were race traitors for having the odd curry didn't exactly help either. On a lot of things though such as (actual) social justice and ecological issues they were better than UKIP and over all they were less given to "Land of Hope and Glory" jingoistic chest beating in many ways. Personally I think it is a bit of a shame they imploded because they had at one stage the possibility of developing into a moderate identitarian party like the FN in France.

UKIP in Northern Ireland I would consider a lot more extreme than the BNP in the Griffin era though head office has tried to reign them in, even chucking out the lad who was their most popular figure.
Journalist Miranda Green on RTE Prime Time just prior to the last UK General Election described UKIP as "The English Nationalist Party".

Yes they are English not British.

C'mon English Nationalism/Separatism In Love
 
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That is what I was thinking; these lads might not be Neo-Nazis at all and might just admire a historical figure who collaborated with the Third Reich. Than again they might be; I wouldn't trust the mainstream media on these questions.

In Ireland there was the case of Yann Goulet, the Breton artist who made various Irish Republican monuments and had been involved in been part of the autonomous Breton State that was under Third Reich "influence" during World War II who some Journalists used to point to as proof that Irish Republicans were basically Nazis; he was on friendly terms with both Provies and Stickies however as well as being a pretty amazing artist.

Just shows what mindless scum the Irish media are.
 
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Slovakia is a country that would be at the rump end of a hard Communist Czechoslovakian state for decades on end. It's unsurprising that Tiso is being partially rehabilitated by some following that experience. A little like how Bandera is invoked in modern Ukraine and how some in Romania are reassessing Antonescu.

It has to be said that it was only with Communism that these countries ever had any independence and sovereignty. It's sad to see that once proud Prague is now the capital of the porn industry, with its young women being publicly raped and humiliated for money on a daily basis.
 

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UKIP in Northern Ireland I would consider a lot more extreme than the BNP in the Griffin era though head office has tried to reign them in, even chucking out the lad who was their most popular figure.
Everything in NI is a lot more extreme than on the mainland. That clown they kicked out said on Nolan that if a Muslim heart surgeon in Belfast got a parking ticket he should be deported. That kind of clampit talk does a lot of damage to genuine anti-immigration movements.
 

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Everything in NI is a lot more extreme than on the mainland. That clown they kicked out said on Nolan that if a Muslim heart surgeon in Belfast got a parking ticket he should be deported. That kind of clampit talk does a lot of damage to genuine anti-immigration movements.
I take your point but only up to a point; the Shinners are not that more extreme these days than the "Soft Left" in the British Labour Party who they are essentially allied to and the Alliance Party, outside of Belfast where they are a lot more Left-wing than the Lib Dems which is why Naomi Campbell refused to take their "whip", is not that more extreme than the Liberal Democrats who are their allies on the UK mainland.

Soft left - Wikipedia

Norn Iron UKIP though as I have said head office have been trying to clean it up and have succeeded to a degree by kicking out the principle nutter is choc a bloc with the worst type of head the ball Loyalist.
 
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