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Self Moderated Abandoned rural Irish towns under investigation


PI Member
Mar 27, 2016
dublin donegal
estates were built beside small villages without adequate sewage treatment facilities all over the country and its still happening, no one follows up while the estate is being built and the builder is active, its only afterwards the problems surface and by that time the builder is conveniently bankrupt.


PI Member
Aug 7, 2019
DS I was talking to a bogger lad recently and he said the opposite, that the Government are trying to force country folk off the land and into towns so they can set up big ranches.

He likened it to the Highland clearances!
This is exactly whats happening, carrot and stick. Better services, school jobs, impossible planning laws etc

Remote working is the spanner in the works though


PI Member
Mar 28, 2020
Yep, and although this type of one off development is not ideal in terms of the distribution of modern services it is absolutely within the traditional Irish mode of dispersed settlement.
We are going to see a huge push to remove people from rural areas, it needs to be resisted at all costs. They want to sell the land off to conglomerates and corporate interests. For enormous ranches, factory farms, wind farms and forestry plantations (Sitka Spruce which is disastrous for native soil and wildlife)
Remember when the English cut down our forests in order to remove the Kern? Something similar is going on now.

People look at the rural towns and villages and despair at how they've declined, but to blame one off housing is a huge mistake. Much of the populations of rural parishes were always dispersed throughout the rural hinterland. Its simply inaccurate to attribute the decline of towns to to one off housing, both town and country have experienced a decline.
The forestry industry came unstuck recently in its relentless pursuit of timber production. A group of activists who don't bother faffing about with marches or protests took the government to court for not implementing the EU Habitat Directive, and won. The result was that the issuing of licences to fell timber was severely curtailed and, as far as I know, the department has still not worked out how to address the situation. Although I personally know several contractors adversely affected by the decision I rather feel that the industry and government brought it upon themselves by going full steam ahead and ignoring legislation that had been in place for years and was there for all to see. Hopefully a little sobriety will now descend upon the unholy alliance of government and commerce and we'll see an end to the long term arboreal monocropping that has blighted a good deal of Ireland over the last few decades.
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