A question about Sinn Fein and Multiculturalism.

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Northern Ireland is a failed multicultural society in which both tribes are biologically almost if not in a lot of cases entirely the same and who culturally both come from the same Civilization, those facts hold out hope for the divisions being worked through but they also make the "Peace Walls" more stark. The more I have cleansed myself of Nordie nonsense the more I have seen how the tribal struggle has retarded and distorted the thinking of both tribes.

Im not opposed to limited Muslim or other immigration however I dont want the Muslim Brotherhood operating in Ireland and believe that they and their supporters should be deported immediately. SF think differently though.

Why is the SF leadership having lived through the failure and violence of Northern Irish society so confident that multiculturalism is the way the ROI should go? Should we not try to work through the Norn Iron mess first before importing potential other ones into Ireland?
 
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Multiculturalism is used to drain away majoritarian dominance and adjusting one's own party to the prevailing globalist climate affords the party a certain NGO respectability. So they are attempting to tap into the power of globalism to plough forward.

The New Left also draws the most restless and tireless activist core and PSF have used this raw material to good effect. PSF on a conservative posture wouldn't have that kind of activist pull and the average conservative PSF voter will probably be counted on to vote for PSF in any event.
 

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Yes deport Muslim Brotherhood scum and Protestant extremists.

people now stating just "muslim brotherhood" is missing the point.

It is not the muslim brotherhood, it is islam that is the problem.

It need not be anything as definite and a group such as muslim brotherhood but islam "in the main" is the problem. Above that again mass-immigration is the overarching problem. Let them have their islam in the middle east. No reason for it to spread here.
 

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Northern Ireland is a failed multicultural society in which both tribes are biologically almost if not in a lot of cases entirely the same and who culturally both come from the same Civilization, those facts hold out hope for the divisions being worked through but they also make the "Peace Walls" more stark. The more I have cleansed myself of Nordie nonsense the more I have seen how the tribal struggle has retarded and distorted the thinking of both tribes.

Im not opposed to limited Muslim or other immigration however I dont want the Muslim Brotherhood operating in Ireland and believe that they and their supporters should be deported immediately. SF think differently though.

Why is the SF leadership having lived through the failure and violence of Northern Irish society so confident that multiculturalism is the way the ROI should go? Should we not try to work through the Norn Iron mess first before importing potential other ones into Ireland?

SF are a typical example of the decay of the Western Left - which was well under way before 1989 but when into overdrive after that. Gerry Adams is a man who has no idea why he ever even joined the Republican Movement, or what it was all about - which is why he is happier sending duck tweets that engaging in serious analysis.
 
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Gerry Adams is a man who has no idea why he ever even joined the Republican Movement, or what it was all about.
Well, a very interesting book is"The Secret history of the IRA" by Ed Moloney. It's interesting about the ruthless way O'Bradaigh and the older leaders were forced out by Adams. Particularly interesting is the terrifying way a woman friend of O'Bradaigh, Christine Ni Elias, was treated. She was lucky to run away to America.

At the end of the day, one might suspect Adams was powerhungry. That was his reason for armed struggle.
 

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Well, a very interesting book is"The Secret history of the IRA" by Ed Moloney. It's interesting about the ruthless way O'Bradaigh and the older leaders were forced out by Adams. Particularly interesting is the terrifying way a woman friend of O'Bradaigh, Christine Ni Elias, was treated. She was lucky to run away to America.

At the end of the day, one might suspect Adams was powerhungry. That was his reason for armed struggle.

The broadcasting ban really made Adams. As long as we weren't allowed to hear what he was saying he seemed mysterious and profound. The minute he was given free reign of the airways - all he had to offer was duck tweets and fantasies about being a Coloured people in a Tarantino B-Movie.
 
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Multiculturalism is used to drain away majoritarian dominance and adjusting one's own party to the prevailing globalist climate affords the party a certain NGO respectability. So they are attempting to tap into the power of globalism to plough forward.

The New Left also draws the most restless and tireless activist core and PSF have used this raw material to good effect. PSF on a conservative posture wouldn't have that kind of activist pull and the average conservative PSF voter will probably be counted on to vote for PSF in any event.
PSF have seriously damaged their vote in Ulster threw not allowing a free vote on issues to do with abortion. Unlike homosexualist marriage that is a major issue for Catholic natural Shinner voters.
 
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SF are a typical example of the decay of the Western Left - which was well under way before 1989 but when into overdrive after that. Gerry Adams is a man who has no idea why he ever even joined the Republican Movement, or what it was all about - which is why he is happier sending duck tweets that engaging in serious analysis.
A very important thing to always remember about the "Troubles" is that unlike the vast majority of insurgencies it was not planned but spontaneously arose out of the state destroying its already feeble Legitimacy in the eyes of large bulk of the population.
 
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A very important thing to always remember about the "Troubles" is that unlike the vast majority of insurgencies it was not planned but spontaneously arose out of the state destroying its already feeble Legitimacy in the eyes of large bulk of the population.

True. Sir Terence O'Neill said what happened in 1969 was the beginning of a civil war.

In retrospect I'm not sure it could have been avoided. That's not to justify all the violence that did happen.
 

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A very important thing to always remember about the "Troubles" is that unlike the vast majority of insurgencies it was not planned but spontaneously arose out of the state destroying its already feeble Legitimacy in the eyes of large bulk of the population.

I've often heard it said that there was two wars going on. You had the old brigade made up of the likes of Ó Brádaigh, Ó Connaill, Mac Stíofán and Máire Drumm, who didn't really care about Catholic civil rights (that struggle was useful, but very much secondary), and you had those who really did just want Catholic civil rights so that they could personally get on in the world - and Adams and McGuinness were very much in that brigade. When Adams realised that there was a deal for Catholic Emancipation to be had, he sidelined the old boys and their dreams of a 32 Country Gaelic Socialist Republic.
 
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