Self Moderated 80% of people no longer want 9-5 office jobs

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It would seem that the majority of people within Ireland have no desire to return to the old patterns of the 9-5 office job and it's accompanying daily commute often traversing half of the country in order to get up to the office situated within Dublin or other such urban areas.

Naturally with the corrupt and inefficient planning system in Ireland, thousands of Irish families had to move as far afield as Louth and Wexford in order to be able to afford a house during the Celtic Tiger property porn years, a situation usually encouraged by Bertie and the brown envelope brigade with their ties to the building industry. As opposed to building affordable homes with access to public transport in or around the M50, it was instead decided to turn over half of the small villages around Leinster into commuter towns with housing estates simply tacked onto them. It was suggested during the noughties that the Dublin commuter belt region had become larger than that of Los Angeles - an urban area with a population several times larger than that of Dublin and itself hardly a model of good urban planning given it's sprawling nature. One can only imagine that after ten years, the situation has only gotten worse thanks to the corrupt and sleazy nature of the Irish Planning Process with it's deep ties to FFG, farmers and builders.

Of course, having experienced the freedom and lack of stress which accompanies working from home, most have become reticent about a return to the ways of old, and who could blame them? Most office work could probably be done in half of the amount of time than the required 8 hour daily stay at the office, not to mention the amount of time freeed up with the absence of an unnecessary commute to a physical office for work which 99% of the time could be done from home.

It will likely take a lot longer for the powers that be to accept such an arrangement, dull office environments ensure people work to strict standards of punctuality, a standard feature of employment ever since the beginnings of the Industrial Revolution. Little do most realise, but the mundane and predictable office or factory job with it's strict adherence to the clock is but a relatively recent invention in human history. Medieval peasants of all people had more free time and days off than the modern Western worker.

Now that the internet and technology has bypassed the need for a physical workplace location, perhaps it's time to go back to the pre-industrial era system in which work was communal and local with families working together along with other members of the community - as opposed to living atomised and separated lives dictated by the clock.

 

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9-5 office is soul destroying drudgery.

However, any alternative is contingent on a few things

Normally remote work requires trust and or experience. You're not going to have companies offering remote work to new grads so office will still be required in some capacity.

The other issue lies in how this will effect those lower down the ladder in terms of iq.

All these african migrants won't have a snowballs chance of landing remote jobs for instance.

We could see an upper class emerge who live a digital nomad lifestyle and enjoy the myriad benefits of no commute, lower cost if living etc
 

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I am never returning to an office situation again. I will work part time from home or not bother my arse . This capitalist system doesn't nurse the idea self care or happiness for anyone it merely crushes each person's individuality and independent thoughts. I t is a form of slavery though thinly veiled as an important part of society. We have believed the bull-shit long enough and cant even buy a home or a child minder ! The slavery must continue a vicious circle and no better than a gerbils wheel in his cage.
 

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Reduce your economic footprint. Cut out all the unnecessary stuff.
Every euro you shave off reduces your necessity to remain in your chains as a wageslave.

The stuff you own, owns you. Your free time is priceless. It cannot be replaced.
Don't give all your precious life away for bits of paper.
 
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It would seem that the majority of people within Ireland have no desire to return to the old patterns of the 9-5 office job and it's accompanying daily commute often traversing half of the country in order to get up to the office situated within Dublin or other such urban areas.

Naturally with the corrupt and inefficient planning system in Ireland, thousands of Irish families had to move as far afield as Louth and Wexford in order to be able to afford a house during the Celtic Tiger property porn years, a situation usually encouraged by Bertie and the brown envelope brigade with their ties to the building industry. As opposed to building affordable homes with access to public transport in or around the M50, it was instead decided to turn over half of the small villages around Leinster into commuter towns with housing estates simply tacked onto them. It was suggested during the noughties that the Dublin commuter belt region had become larger than that of Los Angeles - an urban area with a population several times larger than that of Dublin and itself hardly a model of good urban planning given it's sprawling nature. One can only imagine that after ten years, the situation has only gotten worse thanks to the corrupt and sleazy nature of the Irish Planning Process with it's deep ties to FFG, farmers and builders.

Of course, having experienced the freedom and lack of stress which accompanies working from home, most have become reticent about a return to the ways of old, and who could blame them? Most office work could probably be done in half of the amount of time than the required 8 hour daily stay at the office, not to mention the amount of time freeed up with the absence of an unnecessary commute to a physical office for work which 99% of the time could be done from home.

It will likely take a lot longer for the powers that be to accept such an arrangement, dull office environments ensure people work to strict standards of punctuality, a standard feature of employment ever since the beginnings of the Industrial Revolution. Little do most realise, but the mundane and predictable office or factory job with it's strict adherence to the clock is but a relatively recent invention in human history. Medieval peasants of all people had more free time and days off than the modern Western worker.

Now that the internet and technology has bypassed the need for a physical workplace location, perhaps it's time to go back to the pre-industrial era system in which work was communal and local with families working together along with other members of the community - as opposed to living atomised and separated lives dictated by the clock.

They should try doing permanent nightshifts. Great fun...not!
 
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