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Oliver Plunkett

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I don't like that answer. It's like the one lawyers use in court to defend scum bags. .
No defense has been offered so your analogy falls. The reality of the issues plaguing the Church is just that - reality. People saw it coming, good men like Bishop Fulton Sheen who predicted that the people would have to save the Church from it's leadership. He said this over 50 years ago and this is now happening in Traditional parishes the world over, where the Faithful have grown weary of the scandals and the phaggotry and are pushing the bad apples out of their parishes. It is what is. The famous Fatima prophecies of the early 20th century told us that the coming crisis would start at the top, with the Popes. All has transpired.

I agree with all your concerns, but here we are. It is what we do about it that now counts, and remaining embittered while doing nothing is exacerbating the issues not helping. The Church is going to fall even further, many parishes and dioceses are going away. Many churches will become mosques as punishment for a faithless people who have embraced materialism and modernity. Prepare yourself for worse to come. 'As the Church goes do goes the world', goes the old saying. And can we deny the veracity of this observation? We cannot
 
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[/QUOTE] No defense has been offered so your analogy falls[/QUOTE] No it doesn't. The Catholic Church has fallen to a degree unimaginable when JP11 visited. This is due to a large number of reasons, one of the main ones being brute capitalism. There is a n agenda for Ireland and community/Catholicism does not fit in. Our Muslims are the ISIS bacteria, here to destroy our society.
Prayer won't solve this. The hard hand will. Until we are in a position to deliver the Lored's vengeance on a very broad group of people, there is no hope. As regards doing real world things, I sm doing a "lot" in various arenas. All the Internet lot - Gemma, Gran Torino etc - would samy the same (I say Internet as we know them, not Biddy up the mountain). We know a lot of ants are trying their best. But our enemies do not want usa to be a colony of antsa, working to our own agenda. They want us atomised and at their mercy. And they hold almost all the cards.
 

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No defense has been offered so your analogy falls. The reality of the issues plaguing the Church is just that - reality. People saw it coming, good men like Bishop Fulton Sheen who predicted that the people would have to save the Church from it's leadership. He said this over 50 years ago and this is now happening in Traditional parishes the world over, where the Faithful have grown weary of the scandals and the phaggotry and are pushing the bad apples out of their parishes. It is what is. The famous Fatima prophecies of the early 20th century told us that the coming crisis would start at the top, with the Popes. All has transpired.

I agree with all your concerns, but here we are. It is what we do about it that now counts, and remaining embittered while doing nothing is exacerbating the issues not helping. The Church is going to fall even further, many parishes and dioceses are going away. Many churches will become mosques as punishment for a faithless people who have embraced materialism and modernity. Prepare yourself for worse to come. 'As the Church goes do goes the world', goes the old saying. And can we deny the veracity of this observation? We cannot
Can noone else see how these prophecies are all being played out, it's revelation of the method. The moral shift from the West to the East is all part of the script with the concecration of Russia bs. Daddy Putin and Dugin are awaiting with their supposedly EU friendly Eurasianism. Their not too far off global rule once their technocracy has been perfected, hence Australia currently testing out China's Social Credit System. The moral fight is so we have no sense of identity or brotherhood to band together and stop the current onslaught, and its working; only a small percentage of us understand the use of immigration and atheism for the elites own ends. Everyone else has bought into the big happy world family crap and see almost everything we despise as 'progress'
 
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